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Even if he is not the president of my country,...
I LOVE OBAMA! *cheers for him*

www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_o…

I really hope that this isnt the first and last step to the day where everyone can love WHO they want, no matter what gender the partner is...

I really really hope those days will come... soon!

LOVE for everyone! :heart:

Greetz~!

Saya
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Naymless Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2009
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hmmm.
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Naja... wenn das halbe Land dagegen war, kann Obama nicht gleich sagen "So ist es!" wenn dagegen gestimmt wurde... da muss er noch a bisserl werkeln odaso... =/ I hab aba auch gehört, er wäre net sonderlich dafür... keine ahnung. Immerhin tut er ein bisschen was, ganz anders als Bush, der die am liebsten verbrannt hätte... D:
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Naymless Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2009
Wie auch immer Obama das ganze sieht, besser als Bush isser allemal xD
Und hey, immerhin tut sich etwas. :)
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
So ist es ^^
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shinatanaga Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2009   Writer
I'm not being racist or anything, it's just that, I don't think that he SHOULD be president. He earned it fair and square, but I mean, they're saying that Obama's birth certificate isn't real and that he wasn't born a US citizen.

On another note, yay gay pride! I'm going to go and write a yaoi fic JUST for this!
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Who cares where he is born? he is doing his job and that better than bush. I think the rule that you have to be BORN in the USA to become a president is stupid. If you were born somewhere else but lived your whole live in the USA, you deserve it, dontcha think?
He is doing his job right and people support him. I think that its okay, even if he is born somewhere else. ^^
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shinatanaga Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2009   Writer
I agree with you, especially on the Bush statement.

Moot point!
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SensanCortoskeo Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2009
WOOT OBAMA ~~
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RosyKittenPrince Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't have any problems with homosexuals and I support them have equal rights as heterosexuals but I don't get how giving a group their own month counts as equality. I mean the kind of message sent is "they're differnt so they get a month in they're name and you don't." I mean how come there is no "straight pride month"? Although I agree on how Gay couples would be better parents since they have to be economicly fit for a child.
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AnotherRandomRose Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
I think it's great to have a president who actually supports this, even though i live in Canada. I'm glad to find people who think the way I do!
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ALTHEASOULLESS Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
It already was XD Clinton said so.
How silly.
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Eisaku-Panda Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Woooo!!! :D Obama is great for doing this!
Awesome!! I'm gonna go throw me a wild party right now!!
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Blues-Antenna Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Obama FTW
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Aleiki Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
... Dude. I am officially a happy camper. This is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
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chuubi Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Although I am a little unsettled with some things the Obama administration has been doing (I wasn't very fond of the large number tacked next to the stimulus that has grown our deficit to ungodly proportions), I still like the guy and appreciate all that he has been doing to help with all of the horrible things he inherited and I understand that he is doing the best he can with what he has.

I'm glad he is supportive of many rights for the LGBT community. It brings joy to my heart to know that the President supports me and doesn't hate me for being who I am.^^

Now, if only the taxes my family have to endure weren't so horribly high...
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tokyo-storm Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Yaaay!!!
I luv Obama!
And Gay people are AWESOMENESS!!!
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dinshino Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
I don't particularly care for him. I didn't like any of the candidates that made it to the final round.

Anybody who tries to use something superficial like "race" or religion as a point to vote for them should be eliminated from an election.
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Jesseth Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
... this is really, really quite sad of me, but at the end of reading that proclamation, I realized there was a tear rolling down my cheek >_>""

never thought I'd read something like that from an American president. Small as it is, thanks Obama :'3
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Ashen-Phoenix Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's truly beautiful, Jesseth. *pats head*

It's an indescribably wonderful thing, here.
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RainbowPaperClips Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
I love him so much, he is now my hero :D
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kitsukami Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Personally, I could care less about who a person does or does not love based on gender. And they have a [insert category here]-pride month for practically everything else, so I'm not particularly impressed with that either. The only thing that's ever bothered me about this whole mess is the marriage portion of the whole homosexual agenda. The fact that it's held in a church. And in the church, it's rules are pretty strict about that kind of thing. I just feel like an organization outside of the church is trying to change the basis of the church's rules. But I suppose most people would say, "Who cares about the church?! They can just shove it!" But at the same time, I wonder where people got the right to change or completely void the beliefs of another culture. Anyway, wild tangent aside, I suppose someone's happy, and I guess I should be happy for them. :shrug:
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Amasis Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
You're talking about a religious marriage X3;; If all marriages were like that, atheists would find it very hard to get married, no? There are religious marriages, and there are legal marriages. They're both marriages and the same marriages in the eye of the law as far as rights go. I myself am not interested in making the church accept my relationship. I do not have to get married in a church to be married. However, it is illegal for me in my state to go before a secular member of the supposedly secular legal system with the authority to marry a straight couple, to ask for a marriage license so I can marry my sweetheart.
THAT, by and large, is what serious gay couple are after. I agree, trying to change or overrun an entire religion or religions is wrong. But religion doesn't have a monopoly on the right to marry couples.

TL;DR - Religion has the right to refuse to marry me within their churches and they have the right to, within their churches, refuse to recognize my marriage. They do not have the right to refuse me going to the proper secular authorities to obtain a marriage license and getting married that way, or to keep the legal system from recognizing my marriage.
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lurfly Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Because churches are nonprofit the government has threatened to take away their nonprofit status and therefore their tax breaks if they did not support gay marriages in their facilities. Also a church was sued for firing a singer after finding out he was gay. I think its somewhat ridiculous that a church would need to continue to pay and employ someone who didn't represent their beliefs.
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Hymakari Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2009  Student General Artist
I may be late in finding this Jurnal, but I decided to read it and the posts on it anyways...

I use to be part of a church (LDS Church aka a mormon church), and I was going to get kicked-out/excommunicated if I didn't stop being gay/homosexual. I left before that could happen since I have no intentions of just deciding that I would stop being who I am just to fit in. I don't know anything about goverment rules about churches and things involving gay marriages, or other things of the like.
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lurfly Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2009
I'm not quite sure I understand what you're trying to say in response to my post, unless you're just telling your story, in which case that sounds like a very unpleasant experience and I'm sorry your church was so closed minded =/
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Hymakari Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2009  Student General Artist
I was mentioning how close minded my church has been. It sucks, but I got over it. Yet, my dad still tried tog get me to go... o,o (he is still in denial that I'm gay... lol)
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lurfly Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2009
Ah okay I understand now, I'm sorry :( I 'm fortunate enough to go to a church that is extremely open minded, we're all about the love. But its a catholic church which is definitely different from mormon churches so that might explain some of it.
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Amasis Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
And I agree. As long as the person was singing in religious functions, the church should have the right to fire him. I don't... agree with it from the standpoint of that just not being a nice thing to do, especially if he didn't make it 'obvious' that he was gay, but I do agree that they should have that right and that it's ridiculous to force them into it, by lawsuits or any other means.
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lurfly Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
True, true. Then again people are being fired or just not hired for having pictures of themselves drinking on facebook or myspace. Nothing wrong with that either, doesn't mean the person is automatically a huge party animal, but companies just don't want that image. I see it in almost the same way, neither person is doing anything wrong, just don't have the right image.
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kitsukami Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Then why not fight for a change in the marriage license system, rather than a change in the churches? As for atheists, the marriage they are making isn't considered wrong by the church. Therefore, the marriage itself isn't breaking their biblical "code."

Perhaps I'm just making a whole lot of hoopla over nothing that really concerns me, but I do believe that while I think church-held marriages should follow certain rules, marriage benefits should not just be held for a certain group of people. So while I do agree with you that it's wrong that the government would attach benefits to something not everyone can achieve (for the moment, at least), I still don't feel all that comfortable about gay church marriages.

All that being said, I can't force anyone to choose a lifestyle. In the end it's up to them. And I do believe that the church, in trying to do so, is overstepping its boundaries. I have to agree with the gay community on that.
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Amasis Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Er... I think you misunderstand me? I was saying the church does not have a monopoly on marrying rights, and thus shouldn't be able to keep a gay couple from a secular marriage such as a straight atheist couple might enjoy. From what I can tell, what you said is in agreement more or less completely with what I said. I stated that a church should be able to determine who/what can get married in their buildings and that I believe it's wrong to force the church to go against its belief system.

I'm aware that a lot of the very public outcry from the gay community towards religion is one of forcing it to change. However, the public face of any one group of people is often more 'militant' than most of those people, and my experience with many of the more 'day to day' 'common' etc. gay, lesbian, etc. people is just wanting the legal rights and to hell with making the church do anything.

Though partly the outcry being directed on the church is because of how, despite the 'separation of church and state', America is still mixing church and state and religious leaders will often preach politics. While I've met gay couples with the 'to hell with the church, we just need the rights' attitude, I have met couples with the 'the church HAS to recognize us'. Their explanation was that, from what they could see, the church is so deeply entrenched in everythign that they have to change the church to get the rights.
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kitsukami Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
I see. I apologize. I suppose I simply misread. |D
Anyway, it was nice having an intelligent conversation on the matter, and I found it quite enjoyable and refreshing. Thank you for your time and patience. :3
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Amasis Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Not a problem. I agree, actual conversation is good~ X3
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lurfly Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
There are radicals however the church as a whole (and the official doctrine) supports gay people in that they should be accepted in society and treated just as well as everyone else. They discourage people from being gay and are against sexual relations between gay couples (much the same way in which they are against sex between unmarried couples so it isn't really prejudiced in my mind). Officially the church does not want to force gays to change, they wouldn't be against it lol, but they respect them.

Unfortunately countless individuals give the church a bad name by discriminating and hating gays in the name of their religion. That is completely against the churches beliefs and it makes me sad that the church is being criticized for "hating gay people".
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Naymless Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
:D How cool is that.
Thanks for sharing, by the way!
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CrushMyVelvet Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Hobbyist Artist
Awww, yeah, I loves me some Obama. :D
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morphin Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
I support having the same rights as the couple next door, because I, too, pay my taxes, and work, and make my effort to lead a good life. Even with the whole 'marriage' issue - fuck, call it whatever you want, as long as I have the same rights as heterosexual couples!

And I suppose those that find this insulting and unnecessary still believe gay people are simply trying to get attention. It's a shame, really, one would think they'd be a little smarter and see that the real intention is simply to reach equality. Besides, in what way does my preference/orientation affect you? If you don't like it, then stay away from me. :c I'm not going to rub it in your face.
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Sometimes I have the feeling that a Gay couple could be better parents because they have to "work" for a child... in a way to make others believe that they are as good parents as normal couples!
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morphin Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
I can see your point here. Besides, there are so many kids in foster homes and adoption programs, allowing gay couples to adopt would give them a chance to have a good home. We can be very, very good parents!

I've noticed many heterosexual couples take so many things for granted. For example, my girlfriend cannot marry me and sponsor me for a resident visa for the United States, so we're forced to be apart a lot of the time -- unlike a heterosexual couple that can marry and be together easily in comparison. Things like getting married, adopting... hell, even kissing in public or holding hands as you walk in the park! It's easier to do that now, but you'll still get angry looks from people from time to time. |:
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Heteros just have it easier... they cant understand, how hard it is for homosexual couples... =/
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morphin Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Yes. D: Though I still have hope that eventually, we'll both be able to coexist peacefully... and I hope heterosexual couples, knowing how hard homosexual couples have it sometimes, will also learn to value what they have and try harder.
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Animus3 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
;A;
I'm so glad I voted for him!
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netminder69 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
Since he's so awesome, how do you feel about him saying that gays shouldn't be married? :)
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Was it really him or those stupid people who voted against it?
At leas the cares about them.
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netminder69 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
Here's the video of him saying it: [link]

Now I wouldn't put it past him to be talking out of both sides of his mouth (he could have been telling people what they wanted to hear), he is a politician after all and his campaign and presidency so far has shown that he is very adept at double speak. :)
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Sayael Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Well in some states it is allowed. He just cant change it for EVERYONE since half of the country was against it..
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lurfly Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
Hmmmm?
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Nny-chan Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
My god, I love that man. I am so glad I voted for him.

I think what the people who don't agree with this is that by doing this, it's setting up for even bigger changes. That's why LGBT Pride month matters.
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carpenoctem09 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2009
<rant> As I just read through some of these comments, why should people comment saying "I'm hetero...blah friggin' blah..."? What does it matter if two people of the same gender want to get married? If them getting married is going to undermine your straight relationship, then you had some problems beforehand. </rant>

anywho
It's about time :XD:
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AtalantaAsahoshi Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
I love you, man.
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